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cookietwist Regular Member
Joined: 01 May 2009 Posts: 62 Location: SD
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: a qustion about mendez lip buzzing |
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hello im trying to buzz like im play the trumpet so i started to work on buzzing and i read that mendez said that f you want to buzz naturlly you need to close the mouth regurly and firm the corners...so thats what im doing but i cant get any buzz onliy air and sometimes little buzz because a drop of saliva is reaching out between the lips...and also sometimes i feel a little air between the chicks of the face...
mendez said that it will eventually will buzz naturly but i need to know if im on the right way.so please helpp _________________ SDSD |
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Quiettime Regular Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 47
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Try starting out by flapping the lips (like a horse sound) to help you relax the lips.
Try this in the mirror so you can see what you are doing. Work on making the aperture smaller/narrower as you are flapping, which will make the "pitch" go up until you are finally getting a good buzz going.
Most of the buzzing I do is from low C and down. This is to help me stay relaxed and to make sure I am not developing any tension or bad habits.
It is also great for keeping blood flowing through the chops during and after practice. |
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cheble New Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2012 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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buzzing is at times a little controversial- some say do it alot, some say never and some say a little. My own experience has been that a little goes a long way- a little more for mouthpiece buzzing, but again you can do too much in a regular routine. It can cost you some range in the long run- just my experience. |
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asha'man Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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My range and endurance has increased significantly with lip buzzing. When you adjust your emboucher such that you stimulate your muscles and can buzz a good steady controlled buzz and can adjust your pitch. You will realize that your muscles will burn much more that if you buzz on your mouthpiece. The mp cups your lips and supports your emboucher so without it, your are really working out your facial muscles. Good luck. _________________ AC |
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WHEEZER2890 Regular Member
Joined: 20 Aug 2013 Posts: 26 Location: PARK FOREST,IL
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:33 am Post subject: Question of Rafael Mendez Lip-Buzzing |
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Hello
DePaul Univ. In Chicago , IL is where my former teacher taught Trumpet.
He stressed the importance of lip buzzing . He would demonstrate this by going to a piano and playing a note within the staff and form his embrochure position and "buzz" out the note. He would play different notes using this technique and even do octave slurs. He said this exercise should only be done fot 5-15 minutes daily with rests. He also said this would strengthen embrochure muscles to which the result would be a more centered aperture. I explained this the best way I could. I am sure it will help someone as it has helped me !
With Much Respect
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akirkland New Member
Joined: 02 Jun 2014 Posts: 5 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Thanks. We need to pay more attention lip buzzing, not just mouthpiece buzzing. _________________ Anthony B. Kirkland |
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david johnson Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Placing my index fingers against my top lip two teeth away from the center of the mouth and then buzzing gives me the 'feel' I want when I play. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:23 am Post subject: |
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I'm not going to get into the buzzing controversy but just say, my H.S./university trumpet mentor studied with Renold Schilke and was good friends with Mendez, and did no buzzing, save the buzz to mouthpiece to horn introductory lessons. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Man Of Constant Sorrow Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:33 am Post subject: |
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I recently had dental implant surgery (one front tooth), following a construction-related accident.
My "come-back therapy" employed a modified system of buzzing.
It helps. _________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz |
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kalijah Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | hello im trying to buzz like im play the trumpet |
Then do your buzzing with a trumpet attached to the mouthpiece.
Quote: | thats what im doing but i cant get any buzz only air |
That's right, if you remove the instrument from the mouthpiece there is usually only air or a weak buzz on some unrelated pitch. Unless you force the sound with more embouchure and air effort. That is a road to inefficient playing and an inferior tone.
Advanced players can use playing the mouthpiece as a strengthening activity. In that case play the first resonance. It's about a Blat above the staff more or less, depending on the mouthpiece. |
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wilder Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Jun 2020 Posts: 341 Location: NYC
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:09 am Post subject: Re: a qustion about mendez lip buzzing |
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cookietwist wrote: | hello im trying to buzz like im play the trumpet so i started to work on buzzing and i read that mendez said that f you want to buzz naturlly you need to close the mouth regurly and firm the corners...so thats what im doing but i cant get any buzz onliy air and sometimes little buzz because a drop of saliva is reaching out between the lips...and also sometimes i feel a little air between the chicks of the face...
mendez said that it will eventually will buzz naturly but i need to know if im on the right way.so please helpp | you need to take lessons. jw |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:44 am Post subject: |
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kalijah wrote: | Quote: | hello im trying to buzz like im play the trumpet | Then do your buzzing with a trumpet attached to the mouthpiece. |
I don't suppose anyone ran a search? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
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Benge 3X Cornet |
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JayKosta Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 11:17 am Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | :D
I don't suppose anyone ran a search? |
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why bother ? the original thread is 9 years old ... _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'. |
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poketrum Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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14 years since the original post… |
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