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ramado24@clarkston.k12.mi Regular Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:47 pm Post subject: shiny watches in performance |
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My conductor told me I could not wear a shiny watch on stage as it is "distracting". The watch is not outlandish or anything, it is a nice simple seiko divers watch. Do any of you guys perform with shiny watches and feel just fine? _________________ An indescribable passion, everyone's yearning to create music (yamaha 8335 II rkg) |
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Distracting for whom?
There are things we don’t do on stage, wear cologne / perfume, Batman masks, or KISS style make up for black and white Concert dress.
A watch? Next I’ll be banned from wearing my patent Doc Martins!
Just push it up your wrist a bit… and give the conductor a chill pill. _________________ so many horns, so few good notes... |
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jkarnes0661 Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Is this a community ensemble or a professional ensemble? If it's a professional ensemble I typically go with whatever the conductor/MD/band leader is asking for unless they're asking for something that is contrary to union contract rules. _________________ Jonathan Karnes
Grand Rapids, MI
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Gonzalez Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:44 am Post subject: |
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My watch has a bezel in white gold and is bling af, never had a complaint! But as a watch lover and in the audience, I use a lot of time spotting the watches on stage and try to see what it is … take the focus off the music :p _________________ Van Laar OIRAM light I
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Liberace got away with it… _________________ 1975 Olds Recording trumpet
1997 Getzen 700SP trumpet
1955 Olds Super cornet
1939 Buescher 280 flugelhorn
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trumpetchops Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:13 am Post subject: |
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I try really hard to do that the boss wants. If I don't like it, I won't take the next gig. I've had to play for some things where I felt uncomfortable or under bad conditions and I've said to myself, I'll never work here again. _________________ Joe Spitzer
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Is this really difficult? Get aa Swatch and fuggetaboutit. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
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Brassnose Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Just watching this and I don’t think anyone is distracted by Christian Scott’s watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSsEt5Bk99M
Happy Holidays everyone! _________________ 2019 Martin Schmidt eXcellence
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krax Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:50 am Post subject: |
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What's the dress code?
If it's evening dress, tuxedo, national costume etc. then you're conductor is correct and there's nothing to argue about. Accept it.
Of course, you can choose to be Gabriel Garcia Marquez and refuse, but are you really a Nobel Prize Winner of rare capacity and in a position to do what you want?
If the dress code is informal, well, then you have to ask yourself if it's really worth arguing with the conductor about. |
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Bud told me what to wear.
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Dress Code? The dress code is what the MD/Conductor says it is. This isn't complex.
You can either:
* have a private talk with him/her (which may or not resolve it)
* Don't wear a shiny watch
* quit the ensemble _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
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Miketpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | Dress Code? The dress code is what the MD/Conductor says it is. This isn't complex.
You can either:
* have a private talk with him/her (which may or not resolve it)
* Don't wear a shiny watch
* quit the ensemble |
These days the contract/master agreement made between the management and musicians clearly states the dress code and it is usually quite specific. It’s not something that the MD just makes up.
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Flavor Flav is your friend
and don’t forget to pay your taxes once you get rich _________________ ron meza (deadbeat jazz musician) & (TH 5 post ghost neighborhood watch ringleader)
waiting for Fed-Ex to deliver a $50 trumpet to my door. shipping was prepaid by seller of course!
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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So far my only real accomplishment in life is getting the Eastern seaboard professional trumpet community into fancy watches.
Life is too short: Wear that Seiko. _________________ Andrew Harms, DMA
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Miketpt wrote: | These days the contract/master agreement made between the management and musicians clearly states the dress code and it is usually quite specific. It’s not something that the MD just makes up. Mike |
Assuming there is a contract/master agreement. Do we know what kind of ensemble the OP plays in? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
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Croquethed Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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With a k12 email, probably a high school band. |
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GizB Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Brassnose - couldn't take my eyes off his watch - very distracting! Forreal forreal, I was very glad to see this. Christian Scott is a fine trumpeter, and and in this video he has some funky Roy Hargrove tendencies. Thanks for posting this! |
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Irving Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:22 am Post subject: |
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A silver plated trumpet has a lot more bling than a shiny watch. Leave the watch home but polish that trumpet until it gleams. |
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:41 am Post subject: |
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IME, conductors tend to be quite vain...
You've probably got a better watch then he/she/it and there's some jealousy involved. (Actual envy wouldn't be possible with a lot of conductors...) |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Craig Swartz wrote: | IME, conductors tend to be quite vain... |
You wouldn't want to match that vanity with trumpet players?
"Hi. I'm George. Glad to meet you. And, oh BTW, I'm better than you." ![](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
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