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softcase
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking of buying a D trumpet for orchestral use. I don't really know where to start though, as most Ds that i have played have a sound unsuitable for orchestral use. I'm looking for an instrument that sounds like a C trumpet. what suggestions do you have for suitable sounding D trumpets? a decent Eb side to the horn would be a plus, but not a must.

thanks!
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gus
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I think that according your description, the Best is
the Bach Eb/D with 239 Bell and ML bore. It sound
pretty similar to the C ( I like it very much for that
purpose).

Kanstul also promotes his signature Eb/D with two
bells as orchestral ( I didn't tried it but Kanstul make
good instruments.¡ )

Schilke and others are excellent, but I am not sure IF
will be similar to the C ( In fact I think that they are
very different from the C ).

Regards.

Gus.
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johntpt
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you like the Bach C trumpet sound then I'd get a long bell Bach D trumpet. These generally play very well but can be very difficult to find. I have one with a 239 bell and I love it, although sometimes I wish it had a 229.

Interestingly enough the combination Bach D/Eb long bell trumpets often play better in D than in Eb. These are also much easier to find than the trumpets just in D.

Schilke Eb/D trumpets can work in orchestral settings if you get the larger bells and use a large mouthpiece. I have an E3L4 with the large bells in both D and Eb and it works well in the orchestra.

JU
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fuzzyjon79
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard some people get a Schilke E3L and put a Bach 239 or 229 bell on it for orchestral purposes. That would involve quite a bit of money, but if money is no object, then maybe that is a choice? Although, I think a stock Schilke E3L might be good enough?
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pedaltonekid
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a D trumpet I would go with the Schilke E3L and use the D setup. It does not necessarily sound like a C trumpet though. It is very easy to play D parts on a C trumpet - why not do that and save $2500?

If you want a D that sounds like a C, talk to Cliff Blackburn. He will be able to get you something that you truly like and will do everything he says it will. Not cheap and about 1 year on the leadtime.
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patrick32378
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People in my area (well, old area) where taking a Bach C bell and having it fit to put on their D horn. I'm not sure exactly how this is done. It seems to stand up well in an orchestral situation!! If anyone is interested (as i might be in the future) I can find out exactly what they had done.
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