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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 7770 Location: Des Moines, IA area
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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falado wrote: | ...I’ll be playing in a production of “The Color Purple” end of the month and was told the band will be on stage for the show. Haven’t heard the dress code yet, but rehearsal in two weeks. I’ll ask about clothes and jewelry.
Dave |
If you've been playing as long as your sig suggests you should know better than to ask any conductor or personnel manager a question... |
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onlyson Veteran Member
Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Bartlett, Illinois
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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When I was in high school (in the late 70's) I played in the pit orchestra for a local church's production of "South Pacific." During rehearsals I noticed that the gentleman playing Emile was wearing a digital watch. I later mentioned it to the director, and he gave me that look like "who the hell cares?" He probably didn't want to hear it from some 17 year old kid, but at the performances there was no watch. Well, you know what? It's 45 years later, and still nobody wants to hear it! _________________ Del Quadro Grizzly
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 2665 Location: sunny Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Steve A wrote: |
ramado24 wrote in another thread that they're a high school student, so I suspect the group in question is one of the high school bands. |
Only in high schools… I direct a music ensemble performance program in a high school. We have a very clear stated dress code for performances outside of school hours / off-site. At the same time, kids will be kids and will dress to make their own statement, protest, or even not own the required clothing.
We have said what is needed. We encourage. We offer to help with a loaner jacket, or shirt, etc. In the bitter end, the kids play. Personally, I wouldn’t give a rat’s about the watch they are wearing. Or those white socks (will quietly mention it later on post concert) tights, suspect ear rings, etc etc.
Life is to short! _________________ so many horns, so few good notes... |
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Man Of Constant Sorrow Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Jun 2023 Posts: 484
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Andy Del wrote: | Distracting for whom?
There are things we don’t do on stage, wear cologne / perfume, Batman masks, or KISS style make up for black and white Concert dress.
A watch? Next I’ll be banned from wearing my patent Doc Martins!
Just push it up your wrist a bit… and give the conductor a chill pill. | . *
* that's Doc Martens.
( I have a couple pairs. Jibe nicely with my Rolex! ) _________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz |
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mm55 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 1414
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Man Of Constant Sorrow wrote: | Andy Del wrote: | Distracting for whom?
There are things we don’t do on stage, wear cologne / perfume, Batman masks, or KISS style make up for black and white Concert dress.
A watch? Next I’ll be banned from wearing my patent Doc Martins!
Just push it up your wrist a bit… and give the conductor a chill pill. | . *
* that's Doc Martens.
( I have a couple pairs. Jibe nicely with my Rolex! ) |
That's
Dr. Martens _________________ '75 Bach Strad 180ML/37
'79 King Silver Flair
'07 Flip Oakes Wild Thing
'42 Selmer US
'90 Yamaha YTR6450S(C)
'12 Eastman ETR-540S (D/Eb)
'10 Carol CPT-300LR pkt
'89 Yamaha YCR2330S crnt
'13 CarolBrass CFL-6200-GSS-BG flg
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OldSchoolEuph Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:21 am Post subject: |
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This isn't rocket science (it's business)
When someone is paying you to do a job, if you ever want them to do so again
- Do what they ask of you, without comment, or don't take the gig
- Perform competently, have the tools you need, and be on time
- Treat everyone around you with respect
It's called professionalism
It's no different in any other employment role in the real world. You get paid to do the job the employer wants done, not what you feel like.
And in high school, that's where they either learn it or they dont. _________________ Ron Berndt
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9068 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Gee, either agree to the terms of the job/performance or don't take it. What a concept. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Irving Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Craig Swartz wrote: | falado wrote: | ...I’ll be playing in a production of “The Color Purple” end of the month and was told the band will be on stage for the show. Haven’t heard the dress code yet, but rehearsal in two weeks. I’ll ask about clothes and jewelry.
Dave |
If you've been playing as long as your sig suggests you should know better than to ask any conductor or personnel manager a question... |
Well said Craig. |
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Man Of Constant Sorrow Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Jun 2023 Posts: 484
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:57 am Post subject: |
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mm55 wrote: | Man Of Constant Sorrow wrote: | Andy Del wrote: | Distracting for whom?
There are things we don’t do on stage, wear cologne / perfume, Batman masks, or KISS style make up for black and white Concert dress.
A watch? Next I’ll be banned from wearing my patent Doc Martins!
Just push it up your wrist a bit… and give the conductor a chill pill. | . *
* that's Doc Martens.
( I have a couple pairs. Jibe nicely with my Rolex! ) |
That's
Dr. Martens |
Was using the colloquial term. Have NEVER heard anyone verbalize, "doctor". Kinda like it is common to hear "Birgies" (or, "Berkies"), rather than the formal "Birkenstocks".
Also, the Hip-Hop / street name for "Timberlands" (as in boots) is commonly expressed as, "Timbas".
Got it? _________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz
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mm55 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 1414
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Man Of Constant Sorrow wrote: | mm55 wrote: | Man Of Constant Sorrow wrote: | Andy Del wrote: | Distracting for whom?
There are things we don’t do on stage, wear cologne / perfume, Batman masks, or KISS style make up for black and white Concert dress.
A watch? Next I’ll be banned from wearing my patent Doc Martins!
Just push it up your wrist a bit… and give the conductor a chill pill. | . *
* that's Doc Martens.
( I have a couple pairs. Jibe nicely with my Rolex! ) |
That's
Dr. Martens |
Was using the colloquial term. Have NEVER heard anyone verbalize, "doctor". Kinda like it is common to hear "Birgies" (or, "Berkies"), rather than the formal "Birkenstocks". |
The colloqiual term is "Doc Martins." _________________ '75 Bach Strad 180ML/37
'79 King Silver Flair
'07 Flip Oakes Wild Thing
'42 Selmer US
'90 Yamaha YTR6450S(C)
'12 Eastman ETR-540S (D/Eb)
'10 Carol CPT-300LR pkt
'89 Yamaha YCR2330S crnt
'13 CarolBrass CFL-6200-GSS-BG flg
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Man Of Constant Sorrow Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Jun 2023 Posts: 484
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Huh ?
That's what I said.
ONLY ... it's spelled with an "e". NOT with an, "i", like the Martin horns. _________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz |
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Man Of Constant Sorrow Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Seems-as-though the dreaded Dunning-Kruger Effect seeps into discourse here on this website. _________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz |
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mm55 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 1414
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Man Of Constant Sorrow wrote: | Huh ?
That's what I said.
ONLY ... it's spelled with an "e". NOT with an, "i", like the Martin horns. |
The colloquial term is "Doc Martins" with an i. The correct spelling is "Dr. Martens". _________________ '75 Bach Strad 180ML/37
'79 King Silver Flair
'07 Flip Oakes Wild Thing
'42 Selmer US
'90 Yamaha YTR6450S(C)
'12 Eastman ETR-540S (D/Eb)
'10 Carol CPT-300LR pkt
'89 Yamaha YCR2330S crnt
'13 CarolBrass CFL-6200-GSS-BG flg
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Man Of Constant Sorrow Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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:Yes. Thnx for the link.
I have two pair; the first, many, many years old. The 2nd, maybe 10-years old.
Comfy, practical (especially the bullet-proof, anti-slip soles ... I wear them on construction sites).
Distinctive with the prominent yellow stitching.
Seems to provide recognizable "street cred".
I don't wear them as much in public. The young gals always notice. Have become quite pricey (as has everything, I suppose). _________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz |
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spadazzo New Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2024 Posts: 3 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:37 am Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | Dress Code? The dress code is what the MD/Conductor says it is. This isn't complex.
You can either:
* have a private talk with him/her (which may or not resolve it)
* Don't wear a shiny watch
* quit the ensemble |
This isn't 1910 working down at the Ford plant, the boss doesn't just make up the rules.
Stuart _________________ Stuart Padazzo
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OldSchoolEuph Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:56 am Post subject: |
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It's just sad that anyone would choose to behave unprofessionally. When you are hired to do a job, someone is paying for your time, and your actions, and they have an interest, arguably right, to receive the services they are paying for - whatever that may be.
But if that is not reason enough, consider this: the person making the rules, is probably going to have a lot to say about who gets the call next time. Behave unprofessionally and it won't be you (and word does get around). _________________ Ron Berndt
www.trumpet-history.com
2017 Austin Winds Stage 466
1962 Mt. Vernon Bach 43
1954 Holton 49 Stratodyne
1927 Conn 22B
1957 Holton 27 cornet
1985 Yamaha YEP-621
1975 Yamaha YEP-321 Custom
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Irving Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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This is one of the most idiotic rules I have ever come across. It would make sense if the following rules were implemented first:
no lacquered or silver plated brass instruments allowed, only tarnished raw brass
no silver plated keys on woodwinds
no metal flutes, only wood. No metal keys
no varnished string instruments (metal strings are OK, but should be black)
no metal percussion instruments that will reflect light, ex. snare drums (metal supports holding the drum together are a no no), timpani,triangles, cow bells etc.
no cuff links (unless made out of plastic or sea shells)
and now (drum roll please) absolutely NO shiny watches! |
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tptptp Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2001 Posts: 1410 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Darn it. I just spent some of my irretrievable time reading this stuff. And now I'm adding to it. Something must be wrong with me. _________________ Craig Mitchell |
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