Cornet mouthpiece shank

boofredlay · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 1:42 pm Post subject:

I am looking for a new mouthpiece for my Stomvi Picc and would like to know the difference in a short and long shank cornet mouthpiece.
Any suggestions?

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Mr. Stomvi · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 Apr 2002 Posts: 1062

I have a Stomvi 7E picc mouthpiece in cornet shank that works quite nicely in my Stomvi Master picc. The Schilke 11AX and 14AX fits well also. I have also used the Stomvi cornet shank out of their interchangable cup mouthpiece kit with success. I can also fit any trumpet piece by using the Stomvi interchangable trumpet shank leadpipe (both Bb and A) which opens up the possibilities of trying many more mouthpiece combinations.

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ScheidtDisturber · Regular Member Joined: 30 Sep 2002 Posts: 37

A short shank mouthpiece has a shorter shank.

But seriously... short shank mouthpieces are generally British-style cornet mouthpieces (e.g. Denis Wick, etc.) I don't recall ever seeing anybody play piccolo trumpet with a short shank mouthpiece.

boofredlay · Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 8:51 pm Post subject:

I guess I was too vague in my question. However, I did not know that the short shank was a british-style.
I have a stomvi 7e and I like it. BTW thanks Mr. Stomvi for your info!
I guess what I want to know is, what is the difference in playing style?
I think I need to practice my picc correctly before I go trying too many mouthpieces. I was just curious and I could not find a mention of it here at the TH.

Eric
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ScheidtDisturber · Regular Member Joined: 30 Sep 2002 Posts: 37

I'm not sure short shank mouthpieces are even available in sizes suitable for piccolo trumpet playing. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong on this, but the only big companies I can think of that make them are Denis Wick and Yamaha. The Yamaha models available in short shank style are deeper mouthpieces intended for cornet, not piccolo trumpet. I don't think you need worry about it. As I said, all the piccolos I have seen were designed for long shank mouthpieces.

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boofredlay · Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 6:48 am Post subject:

Thanks guys, that is what I wanted to know.

Eric
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ScheidtDisturber · Regular Member Joined: 30 Sep 2002 Posts: 37

Zeroman --

Are we talking about the same thing here? (It occurs to me that I may be off in my own little world on this one... or maybe it's just you

) I am using the terms "short" and "long" to refer to different lengths of cornet mouthpiece. You appear to be using it to refer to trumpet vs. cornet mouthpieces, period. Am I right about this, and did I completely misconstrue the original poster's intent? What's going on?!?!?!?!

To clarify: some cornet mouthpieces are shorter than other cornet mouthpieces. Bach cornet mouthpieces are what I would call "long shank" mouthpieces, and I see no mention of other lengths in their mouthpiece guide. Wick cornet mouthpiece are "short shank". Yamaha makes models in both lengths. One might also refer to these designs as "British" and "American".

boofredlay · Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 7:36 am Post subject:

I was looking on the Mouthpiece Express website and they had two types of "Cornet" mouthpieces; Short shank and Long shank.
I am aware that the Trumpet and Cornet mouthpieces are different. I was just curious as to the difference between the Cornet mouthpieces and if they played differently or what. I believe I got the answer I was looking for.

Thanks for your concern.
Eric
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ZeroMan · Heavyweight Member Joined: 21 Jul 2002 Posts: 1112

No, you are right. I totally stuck my foot in my mouth on this one. I was the one who misunderstood the poster's intent. I saw the word "shanks" I was thinking short=cornet, long=trumpet. I don't play cornet, and I'm pretty much in the dark when it comes to subtleties involved in playing the cornet.

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pfrank · Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 11:41 am Post subject:

Zero:
Stork might not "market" a mouthpiece as a "true" cornet mp, but if ya take a Stork Vaccianno cornet B cup and open the throat to a 24 drill, you'd have a pretty classic sounding cornet mp! Stork Vaccianno cups are a bit more V shaped than others, and the B is deep!

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pedaltonekid · Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Nov 2001 Posts: 1711

I have many "traditional/legitimate" cornet mouthpieces and the deepest one I have by far is a Stork 1.5A deep V cup mouthpiece. It is not my favorite overall piece, but for that turn of the century or british brass band sound, it is hard to beat.
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_PhilPicc · Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 8:13 pm Post subject:

boofredlay,

You can get cornet regular & short shank and also trumpet regular & short shank. Blackburn piccs take trumpet short shank.

HTH,
Phil
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boofredlay · Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 8:18 pm Post subject:

I did not know that. Thanks a bunch.

Eric
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