Tim Brown's Dual Belled Trumpet

pair of kings · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:34 pm Post subject: Tim Brown's Dual Belled Trumpet

http://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43203&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Reference: Tims dual belled trumpet project

I received this crazy horn last week.
Thanks to Tim for the opportunity... for your creativity, hard work and generosity.

The day I got it, 2 guys were there at the store, one, a brass instructor for a local HS marching band. His first comment was something like Two Bells/Two times Power on the field. Then I explained that it was one bell at a time.

It was 'show and tell' all week at the studio. Every single one of my forty some students had a chance to play it, and we had a blast with it.

I used an Emo harmon which is real light weight and more of a sound contrast. My husband spent more time on it than any of us, and did more different things with it. It's a kick just to experiment . He did some jazz stuff then he was playing Carnival of Venice variations.

With out the mute, the bells are very well matched, in sound and pitch.

I'm completely impressed.
Tim has described it pretty well, so I'm not going back over that. It is a little bell heavy, with the extra bell and the fact that they are mounted forward. But it's not nearly as awkward as it might appear.
I had to watch some of the younger kids - I found some wanted to hold the horn by that 4th valve, which obviously is not good.

I should mention - it does sit fine on trumpet stand, and seemed pretty safe.
It's all ready to ship out to the next person, and looks like it will be under $12 to send to another PA address. I'll advise to use Postal Service Priority Mail. UPS will eat you alive on the DImensional Weight.
I also made up a case for it, that I'm sending along. it's makeshift but it works.
I hope everyone else enjoys the horn as much as we have.

RBtrumpet08 · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:44 pm Post subject:

i know it would make it heavier, but maybe if you could balance it out with a counterweight near the mouthpiece? Did mr brown mention something about a sleeve on the leadpipe maybe?
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TimBrown · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject:

TimBrown · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject:

Thanks PC for being so kind as to take the time to play with the horn, review it and even make a case for it!

This was my first attempt at really *doing something*. Up till now it was a lot of bell straightening, dent and slide removal and valve fixing. So you'll understand why your review means so much.

I hope everyone else enjoys it as much as you have and as much as I did building it!

Tim
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TimBrown · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject:

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pair of kings · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject:

I thought the same thing about a counter weight - there isn't anyplace for it.
It's really not much different than a herald trumpet. A bell doesn't add much weight. The balance of it is just the factor of positioning of the bells combined with the fact that you can't grip it with the left hand like you normally would.

[aside]... shoot! I meant to weigh it and forgot until now and it's too late because it's in the hands of the Postal Service.

fwiw, If anyone wants to see what I did for a case, it's documented here

And Tim - the most amazing thing to me is the fact that I KNOW you don't have a heck of a lot of training and experience. I hope this is the first (2nd - the herald was first, I think) of many successful projects.

TimBrown · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:05 pm Post subject:

vivace · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:53 am Post subject:

oh wow... I am getting so excited. Heck with christmas, I can't wait for this baby to come!
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TimBrown · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:27 am Post subject:

Well, I managed to get the list of names in the tryout out of order! It was:

PC King
The BD
Timberline
PMWLead
Trumpetplayer87??? (Not a definite, depends on her schedule)
Nick_08
Vivace

It is now as follows:

PC King * Done and shipped to PMWLead
PMWLead
The BD
Timberline
Trumpetplayer87??? (Not a definite, depends on her schedule)
Nick_08
Vivace

I had PC KIng send it to PMWLead by accident instead of to "The BD". My apologies. I had tried to arrange the list so it would be where varous people needed it, when they needed it. Hopefully it will still work out ok.

Again, my apologies for the mess up.

Tim
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RBtrumpet08 · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:21 pm Post subject:

you forgetting someone?

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TimBrown · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject:

RBtrumpet08 · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:

thanks! I cant wait! Do you think it will come in after the 16th of january? because on the 10th, 11th and 12th, we have exams. then on the 13th we have a day off and on the the 16th we have martin luther king day off. and i want maximum showing of to my band time.

plus i know they would love to play with it.
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TimBrown · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:22 am Post subject:

Well, I'd figure up to a week for each person, one person isn't sure if she will be around to get it if it is shipped, and any new names will be put at the end of the list.

Does that get it to you at a good time?

Tim
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RBtrumpet08 · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject:

it comes close but i should be fine. if trumpetplayer decides she cant then ill see how it goes. about how long is shipping taking? 2-3 days?
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TimBrown · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject:

TimBrown · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:57 pm Post subject:

Ok. PMWLead got delivery today. So, the list is now as follows:

PC King * Done and shipped to PMWLead
PMWLead * Has it.
Timberline
Trumpetplayer87??? (Not a definite, depends on her schedule)
Nick_08
Vivace
RBtrumpet08
The BD
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vivace · Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:32 am Post subject:

so you guys know, i will be on christmas holiday from the 14th till the 7th. Nick, if you are done with it before than, can you send it to RB instead. I want to make sure I have it when school is in session for all my fellow trumpet geeks to gaze at it.
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RBtrumpet08 · Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject:

we'll see. i was hoping the same thing. maybe if i get it like 1st week of january then it might work out. idk. we shall see. thanks again Tim!
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RBtrumpet08 · Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:40 pm Post subject:

yup i saw that in another thread. this isnt a new idea. its just not to common and Tim decided hed take a shot at making one. a very good shot too.
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