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Dago New Member
Joined: 21 Nov 2023 Posts: 3 Location: Uk
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:30 am Post subject: Piccolo Mouthpieces |
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Hi
I'm looking for advice on piccolo tpt (Cornet shank)
mouthpieces. I've tried a schilke 14 and now a VB 7E but not happy with the sound which constricts in the higher register. Strangely enough, I find my VB 1c gives me the sound I like but is this too big to work in the upper register?
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jkarnes0661 Veteran Member
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 258 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:45 am Post subject: |
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The Schilke 11A and 11Ax are good pic pieces that would be between the 14 and Bach 7E sizes you've tried. I've also found the Yamaha 11C4, which has a little more cup volume than the 11A, good for piccolo work where I want a fuller/warmer sound.
I personally would struggle with endurance on a 1C but I think I recall from the interviews in Hickman's "Piccolo Trumpet Big Book" that a few of the players he talked to did use pieces in that size so no reason it couldn't work if you can play efficiently on a 1C. _________________ Jonathan Karnes
Grand Rapids, MI
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zaferis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Posts: 2351 Location: Beavercreek, OH
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Curry "P" Cornet piece is designed for picc. _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
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Christian K. Peters Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 1538 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:36 am Post subject: piccolo mouthpieces |
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Hello all,
I played the Schilke 11AX for the longest time. Ordered an 11BX just to get a warmer sound. I have also used Warburton 5SV, 6S and 6SV cups with some degree of success. The SV cups seem to work with soprano Eb also with a 13B. _________________ Christian K. Peters
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8927 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:03 am Post subject: |
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I think I have too much lip intrusion to get along with most dedicated picc pieces. Best I've found so far is a Yamaha 11B4 long shank. It definitely sounds better for me than the A-cups I struggle with. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart |
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cbtj51 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2015 Posts: 735 Location: SE US
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:35 am Post subject: |
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I've played Reeves 41 rims for a very long time and I really like my Reeves 41SV Gold Plate Cornet shank for brighter, higher playing, but a rare departure from my otherwise Reeves selection is a Schilke 11AX Gold Plate cornet shank that I am playing more often lately. I have more color control with the Schilke plus lots of endurance compared to the Reeves. Adapting to the somewhat different feel was relatively easy and switching back and forth is seamless, at least in my experience.
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...Ordered an 11BX just to get a warmer sound.. |
Thanks for the insight! I will certainly give the 11BX a shot! That and the Red Brass bell on my picc may be a great combo for a darker sound!
Life is Short, find the Joy in it!
Mike _________________ '71 LA Benge 5X Bb
'72 LA Benge D/Eb
'76 Bach CL 229/25A C
‘92 Bach 37 Bb
'98 Getzen 895S Flugelhorn
'00 Bach 184 Cornet
'02 Yamaha 8335RGS
'16 Bach NY 7
'16 XO 1700RS Piccolo
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cgaiii Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Jun 2017 Posts: 1560 Location: Virginia USA
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I just got an Austin Custom Brass 1.25 Studio with a long shank C1 Backbore. I am amazed at how much better it is on Piccolo than anything I have had before. Still in honeymoon phase, so take it for what it is. Recommended by Josh at ACB. I am playing a Kanstul 920. _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS, Yamaha YTR-6335S
C: Schilke CXL, Kanstul 1510-2
Bb Cornet: Getzen 800 DLXS
Pic: Kanstul 920
Bb Bugle: Kanstul
Bb Pocket: Manchester Brass
Flugel: Taylor Std
Bass Tr: BAC Custom
Nat. Tr: Nikolai Mänttäri Morales Haas replica |
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jpthomas New Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2024 Posts: 5 Location: Suwanee, GA
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 7:54 am Post subject: |
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I am definitely still very immature on the piccolo. I bought a P5-4 and tried the Yamaha 14B4 and was not happy with the sound production. Recently purchased a Schilke 14A4x and a Bach 7EW. Both are much better than the 14B4 with the Schilke just edging out the Bach. The tone production and 'blow' on the Schilke is so much better! |
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Jerry Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2002 Posts: 2170 Location: Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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I found GR piccolo mouthpieces to work much better for me than Bach or Stork on a Schilke P5-4. For me they were really worth the premium price. |
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