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| jhatpro wrote: | | What a day! I was targeted by three different scammers, all pursuing the same strategy: They send me a check for the horn plus a big chunk of dough for “the movers” who I’m supposed to pay. The check turns out to be fake, of course. Fortunately, sellers wiser than me than me here on TH and in my local network warned me to not fall for such a scheme. |
Most likely, it is the same scammer using three different personas. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| LittleRusty wrote: | | Halflip wrote: | | kehaulani wrote: | | Halflip wrote: |
Another option would be to tell the buyer that you will only accept cashier's checks or postal money orders. |
Nooooo Mister Bill.
That payment method is no longer bullet proof. That's a universal scam in is own right. |
I'm glad you and ketch22 pointed this out. I wasn't aware. (I guess it's harder than ever to avoid Mr. Sluggo these days.  ) |
Fraudulent cashiers checks are old news. At least a decade ago I saw a people’s court episode about someone who used a counterfeit cashiers check to scam a close relative. They are better for scammers as most people trust a bank issued cashiers check since the bank used to insure the money existed before issuing the check.
I guess all of these scams have passed out of the public’s memory so they work again.
My son and I went to a drug store to pick something up. While there my son noticed a frantic, crying young woman. As we left he pointed out she was trying to purchase gift cards.
I decided to go back in and talk to her. It turned out to be the IRS scam where they demand instant payment using gift cards or the police will take them to jail. Gift cards can be drained by getting the card’s number and pin so the theft occurs quickly with little effort or wait required by the scammer.
I explained the scam and talked her off the edge. She was totally frantic and couldn’t think logically. |
Did you get asked then for money to pay for gas because car broke down so need to repair the middle axle, all without a cell phone and need to hurry because it is getting dark? |
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LittleRusty
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| etc-etc wrote: | | LittleRusty wrote: | | Halflip wrote: | | kehaulani wrote: | | Halflip wrote: |
Another option would be to tell the buyer that you will only accept cashier's checks or postal money orders. |
Nooooo Mister Bill.
That payment method is no longer bullet proof. That's a universal scam in is own right. |
I'm glad you and ketch22 pointed this out. I wasn't aware. (I guess it's harder than ever to avoid Mr. Sluggo these days. ) |
Fraudulent cashiers checks are old news. At least a decade ago I saw a people’s court episode about someone who used a counterfeit cashiers check to scam a close relative. They are better for scammers as most people trust a bank issued cashiers check since the bank used to insure the money existed before issuing the check.
I guess all of these scams have passed out of the public’s memory so they work again.
My son and I went to a drug store to pick something up. While there my son noticed a frantic, crying young woman. As we left he pointed out she was trying to purchase gift cards.
I decided to go back in and talk to her. It turned out to be the IRS scam where they demand instant payment using gift cards or the police will take them to jail. Gift cards can be drained by getting the card’s number and pin so the theft occurs quickly with little effort or wait required by the scammer.
I explained the scam and talked her off the edge. She was totally frantic and couldn’t think logically. |
Did you get asked then for money to pay for gas because car broke down so need to repair the middle axle, all without a cell phone and need to hurry because it is getting dark? |
I’m not sure how this question applies to anything in the quote but no that didn’t happen.
I have been approached with a similar line in the past. |
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rhatheway
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:17 am Post subject: Re: Scam Question |
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| jhatpro wrote: | I put a horn on Craigslist and got an offer from someone that wanted to pay by check but wanted to make the check for more than the price of the horn so I could pay to have a moving company pick the instrument up.
The price of the horn is $800 and the buyer said the check to me would be for $1,800 including a grand for the mover.
This was a new one on me and smells scammy but I can’t figure the angle. Anyone encounter such an arrangement? |
Several points:
1) Never, ever deal with intermediaries (i.e., the mover who would come pick it up for the buyer).
2) NEVER take a check. Not in today's world. They're too easy to fake.
3) If you don't want to use any of the online systems to exchange money (I don't, but that's just me), then the buyer should send you a money order from Western Union.
4) If the buyer can't meet you in person, use a reliable, verified shipper who is bonded and insured.
5) If the person isn't willing to either meet in person or prepay a reputable shipper (UPS, Fed Ex, etc.), ignore them.
6) If the buyer isn't willing to do those things, WALK AWAY. There's more than one buyer out there.
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MarkFoster
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Scam Question |
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| rhatheway wrote: | | jhatpro wrote: | I put a horn on Craigslist and got an offer from someone that wanted to pay by check but wanted to make the check for more than the price of the horn so I could pay to have a moving company pick the instrument up.
The price of the horn is $800 and the buyer said the check to me would be for $1,800 including a grand for the mover.
This was a new one on me and smells scammy but I can’t figure the angle. Anyone encounter such an arrangement? |
Several points:
1) Never, ever deal with intermediaries (i.e., the mover who would come pick it up for the buyer).
2) NEVER take a check. Not in today's world. They're too easy to fake.
3) If you don't want to use any of the online systems to exchange money (I don't, but that's just me), then the buyer should send you a money order from Western Union.
4) If the buyer can't meet you in person, use a reliable, verified shipper who is bonded and insured.
5) If the person isn't willing to either meet in person or prepay a reputable shipper (UPS, Fed Ex, etc.), ignore them.
6) If the buyer isn't willing to do those things, WALK AWAY. There's more than one buyer out there. |
This is a pretty good list of things to look out for. It can be applied to any online purchase. To avoid falling for fraudsters, you need to study the information in detail. I know this from my own experience. I like to gamble, and I often fall for scammers. Fortunately, I found this resource https://casinosanalyzer.com/bonuses-by-countries/new-zealand-nzl, which has all the necessary information about the most popular playgrounds, from the system of bonuses to payment. This allows me to enjoy the game and not worry about whether I will be cheated. |
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