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annvill Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 4:33 am Post subject: Bach 3C cnc |
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I often read about complaints about the Bach 3C mouthpiece. In particular to the fact that it would be "suffocating". I have several Bach 3C CNCs, but I don't find them stuffy at all. I find them excellent mouthpieces. Does anyone think like me? |
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 5:11 am Post subject: Re: Bach 3C cnc |
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annvill wrote: | Does anyone think like me? |
Yes.
I don't play a Bach 3C these days, but I have several (including from the CNC era) and I have never encountered one that I would call stuffy. _________________ "He that plays the King shall be welcome . . . " (Hamlet Act II, Scene 2, Line 1416)
"He had no concept of the instrument. He was blowing into it." -- Virgil Starkwell's cello teacher in "Take the Money and Run" |
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mograph Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 7:08 am Post subject: Re: Bach 3C cnc |
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annvill wrote: | I often read about complaints about the Bach 3C mouthpiece. In particular to the fact that it would be "suffocating". I have several Bach 3C CNCs, but I don't find them stuffy at all. I find them excellent mouthpieces. Does anyone think like me? |
Mouthpieces are a very personal thing. If it works for you, now, it works for you now. _________________ 1985 Bach 37
1980 King 601 (it's bulletproof!)
1978 Couesnon flugelhorn
Playing for fun since 1979.
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 9:40 am Post subject: |
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I’ve had a few of the older (1980s) ones, and they are too shallow for my tastes. I believe they had the most shallow C cup that Bach made. Are the newer ones a bit deeper? I bought a Curry 3C. mouthpiece, which is slightly deeper than the Bach, in 1999 and sold my Bach 3C shortly afterward. _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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longtermparking New Member
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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The same mouthpiece can interact very differently with two different faces/embouchures. And that's before you get into match with the horn, etc. If you like yours, I wouldn't worry about it.
The Bach 3C is about as middle-of-the-road as mouthpieces get, which makes them extremely popular. Probably only the 7C is more widely used worldwide. With something that common, you will necessarily see a lot of opinions about it both positive and negative, simply because most people have tried one. |
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Doug Elliott Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Just for comparison, wrap your head in Saran wrap and see which is more "suffocating." |
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annvill Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Bach 3C cnc |
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Halflip wrote: | annvill wrote: | Does anyone think like me? |
Yes.
I don't play a Bach 3C these days, but I have several (including from the CNC era) and I have never encountered one that I would call stuffy. |
The most used term is "suffocating". |
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Bach 3C cnc |
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annvill wrote: | Halflip wrote: | I don't play a Bach 3C these days, but I have several (including from the CNC era) and I have never encountered one that I would call stuffy. |
The most used term is "suffocating". |
You yourself said (in your original post), "I have several Bach 3C CNCs, but I don't find them stuffy at all." I was just using one of the terms you used. Is that a problem? I'm not sure I understand the point of your reply.
If I don't find them stuffy, I'm pretty sure you can assume that I don't find them "suffocating". _________________ "He that plays the King shall be welcome . . . " (Hamlet Act II, Scene 2, Line 1416)
"He had no concept of the instrument. He was blowing into it." -- Virgil Starkwell's cello teacher in "Take the Money and Run" |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Some decades ago I played a Bach 3C and liked it well enough. That was until I played a 1.5C and found I liked that sound even better. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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cheiden wrote: | Some decades ago I played a Bach 3C and liked it well enough. That was until I played a 1.5C and found I liked that sound even better. |
Yes, the 1-1/2C gives a much nicer tone, and unless you’re playing a lot of above the staff stuff, isn’t really much more demanding than playing a 3C, at least in my experience. _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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CaptPat Regular Member
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 4:07 am Post subject: |
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I too used a 3C for a while and moved to a 1 1/2C for the sound I was able to produce. Never thought the 3C was suffocating. _________________ Bach Stradivarius 180S37
Getzen Custom Series 3895
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mafields627 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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It's much more likely the multitude of 180-37s on the back end of the 3C that are stuffy.
That being said, I've recently plugged a Pickett YA3 into my 180-37 and it's a very nice match. _________________ --Matt--
No representation is made that the quality of this post is greater than the quality of that of any other poster. Oh, and get a teacher! |
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