3rd valve slide: oil or cream or a mix?

kehaulani

Pretty fundamental question. Do you use slide cream, valve oil or both on your third valve slide? Thanks
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trumpaholic · Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:51 pm Post subject:

Hetman 4 or 6 works really well on my horns. Ultra Pure slide grease does the trick too.
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HERMOKIWI · Heavyweight Member Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 2581

Hetman 4 or Hetman 6. Works well and easy to apply.
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ML52K · Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject:

I've tried both Hetman's 4 and Ultrapure slide grease. I prefer Hetman's oil because it doesn't gob up at the end of the slides. Both work great, though.

Dale Proctor · Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject:

I use Selmer slide grease and cut it with a little Blue Juice valve oil. Very slick slide operation that way, but it needs to be a slide with a stop, or it will fall off.
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cheiden · Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject:

Bach Rotor Oil. Works great and lasts. Doesn't require any cutting or mixing.
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kehaulani · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:14 pm Post subject:

Is Hetman's 4 the same consistency as rotor oil? I'm asking because I have rotor oil for my "French" Horn.
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DWallace · Veteran Member Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 108

I use Schilke slide grease and cut it with a drop or two of valve oil.
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plankowner110 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 3620

Schilke slide grease
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chrisf3000 · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject:

I used apply slide grease and/or anhydrous lanolin for a long time, then I discovered that "key oil" (for woodwinds) is just slightly thicker than oil, and lasts quite well. I love the consistency without having to do anything. It's as simple as adding a couple of drops - you're good to go!

For the record, I have also recently tried Hetman's "slide oil" and it's been working fairly well... I still like key oil a little better, though. Give it a try.

Hack001 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 1685

Schilke slide grease and two drops of Berp BioOil on each leg of the slide. After about one day it works like a valve for months.
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roynj · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 2065

Also a Hetman fan here. Depending on the horn I use 4 or 5 weight slide oil. The 4 is thinner for tight slides, and the 5 is a bit heavier for normal slides. No mixing is needed and lasts a long time. If you're a typical trumpet/cornet player you will put a drop of slide oil on your 1/3 slides before each playing session. I was introduced to these wonderful slide oils by Joe Hetman himself, who is a fantastic player too by the way.

bryant419 · New Member Joined: 18 Feb 2012 Posts: 10

Another Hetman fan here as well.
I personally use #4 for my horns.
The oil itself really cleaned out any gunk that was on my slides and I generally felt that grease was too thick.
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Leonel Leon · Veteran Member Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Posts: 145

When I was given a horn just as a back up horn I found out that the man used key oil because it worked well for him. I use a combination of grease and oil. I am a big fan of selmer slide and cork grease, the red stuff. And I use it on all my slides and for my first and third I cut it with oil. More oil on third then first because it needs to be faster and also has a stop rod. With the exception of horns without a ring or saddle on the first slide. Like flugels or older horns. I usally tune with my lips.

jvand678 · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject:

Chalk up another vote for Hetman light slide. The stuff is fantastic and doesn't break down like thinned down Schilke slide grease (what I used to use).

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mbradd · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:39 pm Post subject:

Anhydrous lanolin with a bit of Ultra Pure. Lasts until I wash my slides.
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stanton · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:56 am Post subject:

Schilke slide grease cut with Al Cass valve oil. Takes a little "working in", but once done is issue free.

FWIW, you can make your own slide grease by mixing anhydrous lanolin and vasoline.
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kehaulani · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:03 am Post subject:

Thanks a lot for all the suggestions, I appreciate it!
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robertgrier · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:17 pm Post subject:

I use Schilke slide grease, but I found that if I didn't cut it with valve oil it lasted a lot longer. After applying I work it in for about 3 minutes and I'm ready to go.
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bilboinsa · Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:56 pm Post subject:

Oil. Why make it difficult to throw the slide?
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