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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 1075 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Champ, hurling insults like this is out of line. Pops spends an awful lot of time here giving good thoughtful answers free of charge and far less time selling stuff. There no snake oil here, just sound advice. Champ, if you've got something to contribute the floor is yours. If all you have are unwaranted and unjustified insults I'd like to invite you to please ignore this and all his other posts that all the rest of us enjoy and appreciate so much. |
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bach_again Heavyweight Member

Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 963
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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No quick fix here, pal. I practice hard, so don't presume that just because I have this book I want a quick fix - how terribly ignorant and insulting of you! Do you have the supreme knowledge of brass playing? I bet you don't even have an Arban on account of just intuitively knowing everything. Seriously, you aren't contributing to this forum. Leave. _________________ Welcome to my new website!
www.michaelbarkley.com
A work in progress
“Everything is possible for him who believes.”
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CHAMP Veteran Member
Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 108
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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you people are unbelievable...
find me one pro who listens to the youtube clips and says that is the way they want to sound.
"a fool and his money are soon parted"
have fun with your e-books, i won't post in this thread again... |
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bach_again Heavyweight Member

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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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No, YOU are unbelievable. Where do you get off on this? Go one further and don't post on this forum again. I'd tell you another thing that you could go and do, but then I would be breaking legitimate forum rules; though I am sure that even your pathetic faculties will work out what I mean. I do NOT welcome your posting, nor do I want to read anything that you have to say. I implore you to leave and to allow us to post in a civilised manner - this forum is not a toilet for your posts. _________________ Welcome to my new website!
www.michaelbarkley.com
A work in progress
“Everything is possible for him who believes.”
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mcahynuacrkd Heavyweight Member

Joined: 11 Nov 2007 Posts: 1028
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| CHAMP wrote: | i won't mince words here...
i (and many others) think that pops is a shyster peddling his wares on the unsuspecting here at TH who want a quick fix for playing high...
he seems more like an expert of squeaks and squawks on the trumpet than an actual teacher...
this should be in the marketplace anyway... |
Champ,
As a trumpet player of 31 + years who is listed in the top ten in my genre (# 7) I could not disagree with you more.
Pops is one of the finest trumpet teachers in the world.
I'm a pro, # 3 in my genre in # of concerts to date. As a professional adjudicator and an instructor I want to sound like Pops. I want for my students to sound like Pops.
But I do like your name "Champ".
I have an all new Cd "TULSA" coming out this December. A lot of acoustic guitar and flugelhorn. TULSA is the finest CD that I have ever recorded. You are really going to love it! _________________ Dr. Michael Schmidt the world's loudest trumpet player. Play the best, play Calicchio. Calicchio 3/9 large bore trumpet and Tulsa Duda Calicchio Flugelhorn. Please listen to the free samples of my trumpet playing at:
www.myspace.com/trumpetofthelord
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 4891 Location: Escondido CA (just north of 'Dego)
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:46 am Post subject: |
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CHAMP wrote:
| Quote: | i won't mince words here...
i (and many others) think that pops is a shyster peddling his wares on the unsuspecting here at TH who want a quick fix for playing high... |
I really hope you are using your ability to see through the hype for something really important, like this whole swine flu scam. Take a look at www.mercola.com. _________________ Crazy Nate
" Strive to have a great day, full of learning and enlightenment, using the mind that God gave you." - CTM
"Before playing your horn each time, grab the nuts and twist 'em tight" - Tom Turner |
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terpfan0512 Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 149 Location: Huntington, NY
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Has anyone worked with this new exercise book? Please share your experiences. |
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jouko Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 110 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I¨m with you CHAMP. Yes these POP¨s books make no sense. And
one of his marketing play is to make people angry and post to TH.
AND then he is selling even more ...
He is very good in marketing...
Kind Regards
Jouko Moilanen
Helsinki, Finland |
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2-5-1 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 917
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:13 am Post subject: |
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wow, some of you guys are jerks....
Are you like that in real life? _________________ Michael Sailors
Trumpeter/Composer&Arranger
www.mikesailorsmusic.com |
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hefferson Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 139
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: |
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For those of you that do not agree with anything Pops says:
How much of it have you tried yourself?
Have you thought of all the players he has worked with, not just amateur, but professional musicians that agree his theory and and techniques work.
I think that his ideas and teaching are wonderful. The fact that he offers so much for free on his website and charges a very small amount for any of his books says to me that he is not doing this for the money.
Try something seriously before you discredit it to the extant you have. You can't read it and say "No, that doesn't work." You are thinking like a child. Grow up. _________________ Bach 72*/43 Bb
Conn Vintage 1RB
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agolden Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 188 Location: Winchester, VA
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:44 am Post subject: |
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O'DOYLE RULES! _________________ Calicchio 1s/2
Bach 3C |
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terpfan0512 Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 149 Location: Huntington, NY
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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How does this book differ from the numerous range and embouchure exercises that have been published? I'm not familiar with Don Jacoby's method. That's why I asked.
I'm currently working on the warm up and flexibility exercises by James Stamp, supplemented by Roy Poper's commentary. I also use the Bill Knevitt Crash Course exercises from time to time. |
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Young Man with a Horn Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Jul 2002 Posts: 221 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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I've got Pops' "30 Minutes A Day" book and can honestly say I think it's one of the best trumpet maintenance books out there. I've just bought "More Power, More Range" as an ebook and am enjoying getting stuck that as well.
Thank you Pops for your generous contributions. |
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aliquo274 Regular Member
Joined: 01 Oct 2009 Posts: 51 Location: Central Massachusetts
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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I received Pop's "Chops Builder" book about three weeks ago. It's 15-pages and most of it is dedicated to the proper way to do pencil exercises. At first glance, it didn't look like much. I figured I'm already out the 10 bucks, so I gave it a try. Within a few days I felt stronger and more stable in my normal upper register. Now, after using it for three weeks, the high 'F' I've been cussing at for 35 years is showing signs of life, and my endurance is better.
So, perspective is a funny thing. You may ask, why pay $10 for a 15-page black-and-white eBook when I can get a slick, glossy, 50-60 page book at my favorite sheet music retailer for only a few dollars more? Or, you could ask, is a single idea that is well articulated and gives me measurable results in a few weeks worth $10? From my perspective, I'm glad I spent the $10.
For all of the Pop's bashers, I offer a quote from Miles Davis. During an interview n 1982, when asked by Bryant Gumbel what he thought of popular music, Miles said "take out what you want and leave what you don't like . . . you know . . . like food."
I guess what I'm saying is, when it comes to method books or teachers or advice from other players, put away the flame throwers and just be like Miles. Take out what you want and leave what you don't like. _________________ Steve
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Harrelson Bravura
Besson Meha (Kanstul) C trumpet
Yamaha 761 D/Eb
Selmer Paris Piccolo
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jouko Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 110 Location: Finland
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
aliquo274 wrote: "I received Pop's "Chops Builder" book about three weeks ago. It's 15-pages and most of it is dedicated to the proper way to do pencil exercises. At first glance, it didn't look like much. I figured I'm already out the 10 bucks, so I gave it a try. Within a few days I felt stronger and more stable in my normal upper register. Now, after using it for three weeks, the high 'F' I've been cussing at for 35 years is showing signs of life, and my endurance is better. "
"I guess what I'm saying is, when it comes to method books or teachers or advice from other players, put away the flame throwers and just be like Miles. Take out what you want and leave what you don't like."
So you lost only 10 $ and you gained that F. If you are missing that F
later so you have lost your money. But now you must be happy.
Kind Regards Jouko Moilanen
Helsinki, Finland
P.S. The only one who wins is smarter than you. |
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jazzman159 New Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Cininnati
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not a pro but I have been using the range builder book by Pops for about 6 weeks. He emphasizes tonguing the notes since this is tougher to do and will give you quicker results. Also, he's big on lip set point...usually G above the staff. The exercises are set up so that you will get the feel of the lip set point concept early on and reinforced throughout. I'm a big believer in playing low/high in one blow w/o having to reset your embouchre. This book will help in this area. Results thus far: the biggest thing is much more ease in playing high C and above and my accuracy in playing these notes increased dramatically. In addition, large interval jumps are getting easier for me. Great book and highly recommend...esp for $ 15 (I bought for $ 10, intro price). |
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The Kraken Veteran Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2009 Posts: 194 Location: 805 Area Code
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| jazzman159 wrote: | | I'm not a pro but I have been using the range builder book by Pops for about 6 weeks. He emphasizes tonguing the notes since this is tougher to do and will give you quicker results. Also, he's big on lip set point...usually G above the staff. The exercises are set up so that you will get the feel of the lip set point concept early on and reinforced throughout. I'm a big believer in playing low/high in one blow w/o having to reset your embouchre. This book will help in this area. Results thus far: the biggest thing is much more ease in playing high C and above and my accuracy in playing these notes increased dramatically. In addition, large interval jumps are getting easier for me. Great book and highly recommend...esp for $ 15 (I bought for $ 10, intro price). |
"usually G above the staff"
What if you can't hit the "G" above the STAFF yet?
I would assume that you go down to E until you can!!
Then again I don't know, I'm still in the comeback learning phase !! |
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leadtpt1955 Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I would assume that you go down to E until you can!! |
That would be correct. Your lip set point changes as you develop. A great book that uses the set point extensively, and at various range abilities by Rich Willey's "FocalPoint", available at Boptism Publishing
http://www.boptism.com/pipuriwi1.html
Well worth the paltry $14.95 IMO. It has worked extremely well for my students. _________________ Rick
Yamaha YTR8340EM
Yamaha YFH6310ZS |
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The Kraken Veteran Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2009 Posts: 194 Location: 805 Area Code
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| leadtpt1955 wrote: | | Quote: | | I would assume that you go down to E until you can!! |
That would be correct. Your lip set point changes as you develop. A great book that uses the set point extensively, and at various range abilities by Rich Willey's "FocalPoint", available at Boptism Publishing
http://www.boptism.com/pipuriwi1.html
Well worth the paltry $14.95 IMO. It has worked extremely well for my students. |
Cool, I got one right!! LOL
I took a look at the "FOCAL POINT" Thanks I will Order It.
Anything to help me be the best I can be.
Wish I could afford personnel lessons for "POPS", that would be awesome, maybe in the near future.
Thanks Again |
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