Yamaha Shew Lead VS. Marcinkiewicz Shew #1 ?

Redhothorn · Heavyweight Member Joined: 08 Dec 2001 Posts: 1173

Anyone out there played both of these mouthpieces and can give me your thoughts on the differences? Seems that I remember Bobby stating the Yamaha back bore was more open? Thanks for the info.

JonathanM · Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject:

Russell; I haven't tried Shew's Yamaha mouthpiece, but I just picked up a lovely Xeno RGS and the guy had the Marcin (sp) Shew 1. I'm NOT a fan of shallow mouthpieces and thin backbores right now, but I'm surprised at the ease there is in playing it.

To me, the main diff that I notice is the rim. Seems a bit thinner, certainly thinner and more rounded than my Monette 4, or a Schilke 13a4a. The broad rims really lead me to mash onto the mouthpiece; this Shew 1 is very comfortable to me.

Not the contrast of Yamaha's brand and the Marc, sorry; but thought the rim comment might be of help to you. Incidentally, I'm so impressed I'm going to get at least one more of the Marc Shew models; preferably a 2, maybe a 1.75; perhaps all 4 of them. I am that impressed.

Blessings back at 'ya.

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trumpetangel · Veteran Member Joined: 05 Oct 2004 Posts: 130

The Yamaha Shew's diameter is a tad wider with a more rounded bite than the Marcink Shew. Yamaha cup is more bowl shaped, the Cink is more v-shaped.The Yamaha backbore is actually a bit narrower than the Cink, it has a different shape.

TrpPro · Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject:

I'm experimenting with a Marcink Shew 1.25 model E10.3 and like it so far ... only a few days.

I've used the Yamaha Shew lead for a while and liked it but find the high register (G above high C and beyond) can get difficult to really open up. Also find articulating cleanly above high C to be a challenge.

The Marcink right away has a much fatter sound and more accurate attack, especially above high C and the extreme high end opens up. It also seems to have a softer feel on the lips.

Anyone have any comparisons between the other Marcink Shew models: Shew1/E14, Shew1.5/E9.1, Shew1.75/E8.4 and Shew2/E5.

Redhothorn · Heavyweight Member Joined: 08 Dec 2001 Posts: 1173

Trpt Pro ... you may wanna try the Marcinkiewicz Ingram as it is a great piece as well and not quite as shallow as the E-14 ... yet, shallower than the 1.25. Thanks for the info.

Ole · Veteran Member Joined: 27 Dec 2008 Posts: 123

According to Roger Ingram's book his Marcinkiewicz mpc has the same cup as a Shew 1. Just the ouside diameter is a wee tighter which makes the cup feel deeper. I think he even said that in the book.

RogerIngram · Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:00 pm Post subject:

The outside AND inner diameters of the Marcinkiewicz Ingram are downsized by one size from the Shew #1. This made the mouthpiece work for me.

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ejweiss · Veteran Member Joined: 15 May 2009 Posts: 297 Location: WI

Roger, due you really play and record with that mouthpiece? Wow, you sound incredible!

RogerIngram · Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:54 am Post subject:

ejweiss,

That's really nice of you to say. And yes, that's the mouthpiece I really use.

Have a great week,
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KPC517 · Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:42 am Post subject:

I have played both the Yamaha Shew Lead and the Marc. 1.25,1.5,1.75, and 2. The Yammie Shew feels about the diameter of a 3C to me. The cup is more rounded. I love the Marc. shape, size and efficiency. It is more of a "CV" cup which, for me, works great. I used to play the 1.5 exclusively with my Yamaha 8335LA. I just recently purchased a 1963-64 Conn 36B and the 1.5 felt a little restrictive (maybe because of the bore of the horn?). I switched to the Marc. Shew 2 and it is a great match. Range did not suffer and the sound is a little bigger. The 1.5 has a .140 drill while the 2 has a .144 drill. I am going to get a 1.5 and open it up to .144 to see what happens. I love the Marcinkiewicz mouthpieces. With that being said, for some reason I can't get the 1.75 to work for me. I think you will be very happy with the Marcinkiewicz mouthpiece. Give Rogers a try also. For the price, you can't go wrong! Hope this helps.

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