When did Bach mouthpieces become consistent?

JetJaguar

We all know in the old days, mouthpieces weren't consistent because they used a cutting tool that wore out until replaced. So the degrees of wear resulted in inconsistent products.

Then they got smart and hired Robbie the Robot who constantly adjusted a very fine tool to produce a perfectly uniform product, piece after piece.

When did that begin? Small period after the CORP?

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bebiperez · Regular Member Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 28

Last month I purchased a brand new Bach 1.5C from WWBW. It wobbled on all my trumpets. I bought a second one and the same problem. I ended returning both. FWIW I have two Bach Symphonic mouthpieces that fit perfectly on all the receivers.

homebilly · Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:28 pm Post subject:

those were made by Wobbly the Wobot
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zaferis · Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:22 pm Post subject:

When they, like everyone else, got their CNC machines up and running. I'm pretty sure that there have been some changes to the design of what is being made - i.e. changed to a more generally liked 3C design.

I've had more issues with plating - I recently picked up a "duplicate" of my main piece and found the throat noticeable different in size - a little extra silver in the throat had closed it of a tick.
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JetJaguar · Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:48 pm Post subject:

Halflip · Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:54 pm Post subject:

Seymor B Fudd · Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:18 am Post subject:

Wobot

! You wascal you!

However - the other day I was forced to bowwow, I mean borrow a VB 1 1/4 C from my section buddy. He had two, one of them as old as my own old one (at home), from 1970 - the other one 2-3 years old. They were absolutely totally different

The later one stuffy lacking that big crisp sound which was possible with the old one.

So it´s a good question. Might be as Zaferis is suggesting, adaptation to newer demands/trends thus not so much malfunctioning wobots.
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gord-o · Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:36 am Post subject:

Halflip's response is spot on. I went on a factory tour of the Bach factory in 1997 and they were making a lot 7C pieces that day on two long CNC machines. The operator would load a long bar of brass in the machine, push the go button, and the machine would make the piece. There was a cart with racks of finished mouthpieces ready to go to plating. I should have asked if they were making models other than the 7C, but I remember that they were reluctant to answer some of the questions I had asked earlier. They did say those machines were new, and they were proud of them, so I think that late 1990's 'large letter' answer is correct.
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abontrumpet · Heavyweight Member Joined: 08 May 2009 Posts: 1790

As of 2022, consistency hadn't been achieved.

zaferis · Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:29 am Post subject:

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Andy Del · Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:43 pm Post subject:

Asking when Bach became consistent is like asking you when did you stop beating your wife.
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CaptPat · Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:16 am Post subject:

I don’t think that recent Bach offerings are more or less consistent than mass produced MP’s from other manufacturers, like Yamaha.
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jazz50's · Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:59 am Post subject:

A couple of years ago I purchased a Symphonic 1C 24/24 that I really liked.
So I decided to get a second one. Eventually I ended up with 4 different mouthpieces, all Symphonic 1C’s 24/24. Bach and consistency are not friends. But maybe the fact that all their pieces are different, is the reason so many people find one that works for them. Just ONE though.