Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9068 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:41 am Post subject:
trpthrld wrote:
In her show, she sometimes does a scene from "Gypsy" where the trumpet is played and supposed to be played not too well..
"Ya gotta have a ginnick".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS67xxFKnls _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9068 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:28 am Post subject:
Did anyone see Born to be Blue, about Chet Baker? I thought the horn playing was reasonably accurate. To me, it's more an impressionist work of art rather that precise biography and only deals with a short time in Baker's life, but I found it very rewarding to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NduvdO0x6JQ _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
For me, Ethan Hawke looks too little like Chet Baker. I would have cast Willem Dafoe, perhaps. Or Billy Crudup. _________________ "He that plays the King shall be welcome . . . " (Hamlet Act II, Scene 2, Line 1416)
"He had no concept of the instrument. He was blowing into it." -- Virgil Starkwell's cello teacher in "Take the Money and Run"
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Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9068 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:16 am Post subject:
Well, yeah. It's hard to get a good sound from a cello by blowing into it.
Reminds me of a great story about Sir Thomas Beecham and a female cellist but can't share it here. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
Well, yeah. It's hard to get a good sound from a cello by blowing into it.
That's the joke (it's funnier when you hear the exasperated teacher say it with a heavy German accent). It's been in my signature for over a year. _________________ "He that plays the King shall be welcome . . . " (Hamlet Act II, Scene 2, Line 1416)
"He had no concept of the instrument. He was blowing into it." -- Virgil Starkwell's cello teacher in "Take the Money and Run"
Warren Vache in a movie that I think was called "The Gig". Jack Sheldon in the movie staring Bette Midler (the name of the movie escapes me) that was mildly based on Bob Hope and Martha Raye during World Was II. Both did their own playing (except for Jack Sheldon's high note at the end on one of the tunes).
I heard a story, and maybe some here on TH can confirm or deny it, that Denzel Washington in "Mo Better Blues" had Terrance Blanchard teach him the fingering to all the on screen solos and if Denzel missed a fingering, he would yell "cut" and re-shoot the scene.
Jack Sheldon in the movie staring Bette Midler (the name of the movie escapes me) that was mildly based on Bob Hope and Martha Raye during World Was II. Both did their own playing (except for Jack Sheldon's high note at the end on one of the tunes).
That was "For the Boys" (1991). James Caan was the male lead (Jack Sheldon had a supporting role). _________________ "He that plays the King shall be welcome . . . " (Hamlet Act II, Scene 2, Line 1416)
"He had no concept of the instrument. He was blowing into it." -- Virgil Starkwell's cello teacher in "Take the Money and Run"
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:29 am Post subject:
I nominate: in no real order…
Kurt Russel in swing shift. A nice movie about a trumpet player. She finally gets him a new mouthpiece when she has to break up with him. Then he plays the blues on his mouthpiece on the band bus with the bass player leaning over the seat in front to play the bass on the bus. Very cool movie.
A man called Adam has the most amazing scene where Sammy Davis junior dies by playing the trumpet too hard on the band stand. That has to make it the best role ever hands down! And Nat played the trumpet for the scene which is really intense.
Mo better blues of course:) it starts with an intimate examination of the parts of a trumpet. A Yamaha 6335 it looks like
Born to be blue of course:)
Pennies from heaven louis plays great live on the set…everything with Louis Armstrong.
Three lead actors, Eastwood, Van Cleef, and Wallach, are just about upstaged in the final scene of the film... in that sense M. Laceranza belongs in the role category imo :
Looked convincing. However (?); he pointed his right-hand fingers in an odd way.
I remember this film, back-in-the-day. _________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz
For me, Ethan Hawke looks too little like Chet Baker. I would have cast Willem Dafoe, perhaps. Or Billy Crudup.
No, no, no.
I suggest Chris Izaak. He looks uncannily like Chet.
I saw him in concert. Was opening act for Tina Turner. He plays guitar and sings. Had a semi-big Top-40 hit, "Wicked Games" (I think the YouTube video of the same name won an award. Check it out. Sensuous.).
Izaak had a TV show. He does have acting chops. _________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz
For me, Ethan Hawke looks too little like Chet Baker. I would have cast Willem Dafoe, perhaps. Or Billy Crudup.
No, no, no.
I suggest Chris Izaak. He looks uncannily like Chet.
To me he looks uncannily like Ron DeSantis. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. _________________ "He that plays the King shall be welcome . . . " (Hamlet Act II, Scene 2, Line 1416)
"He had no concept of the instrument. He was blowing into it." -- Virgil Starkwell's cello teacher in "Take the Money and Run"
For me, Ethan Hawke looks too little like Chet Baker. I would have cast Willem Dafoe, perhaps. Or Billy Crudup.
No, no, no.
I suggest Chris Izaak. He looks uncannily like Chet.
To me he looks uncannily like Ron DeSantis. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Perhaps (?).
But, pull up (do a 'Google' search) photos of Chris Izaak.
On-another-note ... perhaps (?) there was a dude that actually is the biological father of Izaak, Chet Backer and Ron DeSantis. Musta been quite the stud. _________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz
... and you kiboshed (Yiddish word) the resemblance?
No, I honestly do not see the "uncanny" resemblance that you seem to see. To me, if there is any resemblance at all, it is extremely cursory. Nose, cheekbones, jawline, etc. all look rather different. He looks like Chet Baker the way that any blonde with a good figure looks "exactly" like Marilyn Monroe.
As I said, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. No point in debating what are, after all, just opinions. _________________ "He that plays the King shall be welcome . . . " (Hamlet Act II, Scene 2, Line 1416)
"He had no concept of the instrument. He was blowing into it." -- Virgil Starkwell's cello teacher in "Take the Money and Run"
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 944 Location: Eastern NC
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:35 pm Post subject:
Hi, I see nobody mentioned the movie Bolden. Though the character playing Buddy Bolden is playing a cornet. There are a couple of scenes where the Bolden character is listening to Louis Armstrong on the radio.
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An honorable mention could probably go to Max Tooney from Legend of 1900...even if the actor had little idea how to act playing convincingly. _________________ 1975 Olds Recording trumpet
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