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zackh411 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 May 2011 Posts: 1886 Location: Saint Louis MO
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: To freak or not to freak |
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number juan wrote: | Do you think some people are just freaks at playing high, or do you think they just happened to learn to play with their lips in the perfect place for developing an extreme register? So natural gift, or just luck? |
I absolutely think it's the second one. A bit of luck. Luck only gets you a bad start, however... Even those that got really lucky (Wayne Bergeron, for instance) have put in a tremendous amount of work.
I'm an example of it not being a gift. I've added octaves to my range with practice, not luck. _________________ ~Zack
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VintageFTW Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Apr 2016 Posts: 130 Location: Somewhere in the mountains of North Georgia
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:00 am Post subject: |
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I would say that it is hard work that gets you the accuracy (AKA being able to STABLY chromatic up to a Double C every time), but I do have to say their is definitely some level of "Freak" that certain people naturally have. I for example, have only been working on my range for maybe two years tops and I can already hammer out a Super C on command. That doesn't mean I can hammer a chromatic up to it though. All it means is that I can slot it every time at ear-splitting volume. In all reality I'm only securely accurate up to a Double G, even though I can chromatic up past Double C if I try my absolute hardest. _________________ 1880's Thompson & Odell Boston
1880's L&H "Henry Gunckel" Sole Agent Cornet
1903 L&H "Improved Own Make"
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herbievantetering Regular Member
Joined: 18 Jul 2023 Posts: 23
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:50 am Post subject: |
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It is a difficult subject; the "higear logear" and "squeeks to notes" are a good starting point, together with solid theory & analysis on 'embouchure' and upper register 'excercises' from the top high note instructors.
However, the difference is in practicing music and using a small percentage outside of the 'attained muscle memory' from 'excercises' to play high with a nice sound and in a musical way for the 'correct muscle memory'.
High note lead playing is way to demanding, much better to dial it down and stay relaxed. |
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