View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
ldwoods Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Sep 2004 Posts: 1848 Location: Lake Charles, LA
|
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:35 pm Post subject: Suggested placement of BE exercises in regular practice? |
|
|
Sorry if this has been covered, but my search revealed nothing.
Is it best (from your personal experience) to do BE exercises as a stand-alone session?
If done as part of regular practice, do you prefer as part of warmup, or after as a type of cool down, or some other schedule? _________________ Larry Woods
LDWoods |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Seymor B Fudd Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Oct 2015 Posts: 1476 Location: Sweden
|
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:46 am Post subject: |
|
|
For me -I begin with the Caruso 5 positions, no attack versus with attack - in order to get a feeling for the state of my lips. Little paus
Then I use the Frink nr 1 Integrated warmup adding a few Clarke runs - paus. Turned out that I had to do a warm up prior to the BE. But that´s me.
Then the BE.
Beginning with RO - all of them (depending on the elasticity of my lips)
Then Crescendo 1 C-C
Tongue on lips 1 and 2 C-G
Doing these very very carefully! Including the Cresc; Seemingly simple but not! I find these exercises quite fantastic, simple as the may seem....rather straining but don´t overdo them.
Allt the time I observe potential weariness - important to take 5! At least.
I have often done the RI:s in connection with the RO:s. But watch out! Don´t overdo.
Then the Advanced lip flexibilies.
Paus.
Then Clarke - or others gems from the BE book.
Then new material from the bands.
Never any problems with this scheme, whatsoever. Also I´m using a bigger (deeper) mouthpiece when practicing.
So in short: Nope, not stand alone; integrated with the rest of my musicical life.
And as so often on the TH: works for me _________________ Cornets: mp 143D3/ DW Ultra 1,5 C
Getzen 300 series
Yamaha YCRD2330II
Yamaha YCR6330II
Getzen Eterna Eb
Trumpets:
Yamaha 6335 RC Schilke 14B
King Super 20 Symphony DB (1970)
Selmer Eb/D trumpet (1974) |
|
Back to top |
|
|
kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9071 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
|
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I don't do BE anymore but did them for several years. When I was doing them, I did the Laurie Frink Integrated Warm-up then BE in the same order as presented in the book. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Trumpjerele Veteran Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2019 Posts: 178 Location: Spain
|
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:06 am Post subject: |
|
|
If my schedule permits I do BE in a separate session, the first one of the day.
If I can't separate the BE practice, I do it at the beginning, then I continue with other things.
I find it important to do BE with fresh lips. _________________ Notice!!! Amateur musician without formal studies
Trumpet: Yamaha 8310Z
Mouthpiece: the great Yamaha11b4
Sax tenor: Yamaha YTS 23
Mouthpiece: Otto link tone edge |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Seymor B Fudd Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Oct 2015 Posts: 1476 Location: Sweden
|
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
Trumpjerele wrote: | If my schedule permits I do BE in a separate session, the first one of the day.
If I can't separate the BE practice, I do it at the beginning, then I continue with other things.
I find it important to do BE with fresh lips. |
I agree. The BE exercises are quite straining in themselves so it´s far too easy to overdo them killing your chops. I know, first hand....
That said I do an easy warm up then go for the BE - and later in the day other stuff. But some days now and then I devote entirely to the BE - however never ever prior to a rehearsal, concert.
Normally warm up, BE and then other stuff well spaced throughout the day. 3(4) x 20 -30 minutes +/-. Some days considerably shorter and some days more - depending on the state of my chops.
The risk of overdoing whatever exercise is always present. _________________ Cornets: mp 143D3/ DW Ultra 1,5 C
Getzen 300 series
Yamaha YCRD2330II
Yamaha YCR6330II
Getzen Eterna Eb
Trumpets:
Yamaha 6335 RC Schilke 14B
King Super 20 Symphony DB (1970)
Selmer Eb/D trumpet (1974) |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|