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MiloTheGreat Veteran Member
Joined: 13 Feb 2012 Posts: 220 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:23 pm Post subject: Top register getting fluffy |
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hey guys,
Thought I'll post something I've been noticing.
I've had about 10 years off and now the children are less demanding I'm blowing again.
I've been using maggio method and things are turning out well. My range in the first 20 minutes is clear as a bell (high G's), however as the practice/gig/rehearsal goes on I notice the tone gets fluffly and muffled until eventually no tone (about 2 hours), just air comes through.
What would you guys subscribe? (apart from only taking 30 minute gigs) |
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jiarby Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Jul 2011 Posts: 1188
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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more practice, and more patience. |
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Kofipoiss Veteran Member
Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 173 Location: Estonia
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't it just fatigue? Try to rest as much as you play. _________________ Harrelson Bravura Bb
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stanton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 726 Location: Skokie, Illinois
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Tone changing is often due to the consistency of the lip tissue changing. Possibly a signal that you are using too much force and need to develop some more efficiency and skill.
I think more rest between exercises would be good. Fading of your sound is a signal that you've used up your last bullet and a signal that you should back off and play in a lower register until your lip tissue can normalize.
Good luck,
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connicalman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 1668 Location: West Medford, MA
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like a case of muscle memory vs muscle fatigue.
Sports trainers know that it takes 6 weeks to plan for, work toward, and achieve each successive plateau.
It sounds like your chops have hit a plateau. But of course your mind and the mind of your muscles wishes to go further. Once you're rested you'll be able to "blow thru it", but not now.
One thought is to work progressively for 5 weeks and take it real easy on the 6th week. 5 steps up, 1 step back? Much better than digging a hole.
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robertgrier Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Posts: 937 Location: Greensboro, NC
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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How long have you been back on the horn. Sounds like you are trying to play pass the limit of your embouchure's current strenght. You may be using too much pressure from the start, don't know for sure, but if you play pass the point of fatigue you will use excessive pressure. _________________ Bob Grier
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MiloTheGreat Veteran Member
Joined: 13 Feb 2012 Posts: 220 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys, thanks for all the suggestions.
I practised long quiet arpeggios, this seems to strengthen the corners of the mouth, and with Maggio, decreased the pressure.
Endurance is now very good, so good, the rehearsal/gig ends and my chops are fine, I run out of time. I suppose I could just play 2 hours of high-G's and see how long I last?
Thanks
Milo |
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GrillHorn Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 104 Location: Chicago,IL
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Another thing that may help extend your daily endurance is keeping that image of a clear, vibrant, "out-front" sound up there. I think early Maynard and Doc are both good examples of this. Helps me when I get "fluffy" up there. Good luck.
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