Conn Vintage One Sound Bytes

_dcstep · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:02 am Post subject:

Take a listen at Bert Truax's web site. He self-recorded the Texas All-State Trumpet Etudes on his Conn V1B-GP with #34 leadpipe. Although self-produced in his small trumpet studio, I think that the sound is very representative of his sound in person. He's using a GR65MX for the mouthpiece.

http://www.berttruax.com/Bert_Truax_Compositions.htm

Ciao,

Dave
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jamesfrmphilly · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:55 am Post subject:

dis don sound like no Bach, tha could be a problem in dem circles, ya know?
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_dcstep · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:00 am Post subject:

I doubt that the Bach C will ever be sold, although I understand that Conn is trying hard to match it. We'll see...

Comparing his Bach 43 and the Conn V1 in person, the Bach sounded a little thinner. Both are great horns.
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livertwist · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:32 am Post subject:

Wow. Listening to Bert play makes me realize how far I have to go. Man, he's good. <sigh>

Oliver

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tinetpt · New Member Joined: 17 Aug 2003 Posts: 4 Location: Florida

He has really good finger technique. However, I think he has a nasal-stuffy quality to his tone. Also, the attacks (to me) sound a bit harsh. Are those sixteenth notes really that fast that a double tongue needs to be used? I didn't think so when I was listening to the sounds clips. To me, it just didn't sound fluid.

Jay

_dcstep · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 12:57 pm Post subject:

jophst · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:15 am Post subject:

Did anyone else find what tinetpt said to be kind of rude?? I really don't think this guy was going for CD-recording quality and to be released in retail stores at that. He was merley illustrating the sound and playability of the Conn Vinatge One which I felt he did quite well. He wasn't trying to impress anyone by any means which I am quite sure he could have ... even you tinetpt. Maybe not everyone is as good as you are tinetpt .... do you have any recordings you would like to share with us?? I myself thought it sounded pretty good ... especially his own composition. He has terrific technique and note accuracy and rhythm. I'm sorry but I find it rude to outright someone else's playing ... we're all here to make music .... not to discourage it or bash it. You can take that attitude back to high school where it belongs.

Just upsetting.
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jamesfrmphilly · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:25 pm Post subject:

you mean i can't criticize nothing?
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_dcstep · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 4:24 pm Post subject:

ARB · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 4:45 pm Post subject:

Man, he sounds pretty darn good to me; I guess I have a really really long way to go. But that's OK, I'm enjoying the trip.

I'll tell ya' though, those are some pretty nice sounds.

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Trptbenge · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:42 pm Post subject:

He sounds fine and demonstrates the Conn Vintage One very well. I don't understand why people want to always criticize other players. Very unfortunate & disappointing. Life is too short - enjoy the music.

Mike

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jamesfrmphilly · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:57 pm Post subject:

so, criticize = bad

Tootsall · Heavyweight Member Joined: 05 May 2002 Posts: 2952

Hey, Tiny tpt.... Tell yuh whut, ol' buddy. Y'all record and post clips of YOU playing those same pieces and demonstrate whut yuh mean. Sometimes a demonstration is worth a thousand criticisms, yuh know?

I agree with most of the other posters: the "nasal" or "airy" sound that's in there seems to be a function of the recording or possibly the room in which it was recorded, mic placement, the speakers on my computer (which ain't exactly Hi Fi, if ya know what I mean), or whatever.

He plays a hell of a lot better than I do so I'm nobody to criticise him. Thanks for posting the link, dcstep.

Here's one for Allen Vizzutti. No idea what he's playing, and suspect it doesn't matter! LOL!

http://www.artra.com/admin/mp3_files/vizzutti.ram

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WaxHaX0rS · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Jul 2003 Posts: 524

I think his opinion is his opinion. I'm not all that good at trumpet, but I think I could probably hear something and tell whether I like it or not. And what he said was pretty polite, if you think that was harsh then you have no idea what you are talking about. Not saying I necessarily I agree with him, I liked the recordings, but I think his opinion is his opinion. I think you all have been much MUCH more rude to him than he was about those recordings (he wasn't).

trumpetteacher1 · Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 6:49 am Post subject:

First, kudos to Bert for the contribution. He is a terrific player, and these are nice clips.

Second, I disagree that Jay was rude. This is music recorded as an example for a contest, and therefore needs to be scrutinized a little more carefully than the typical internet sound file. I too found myself wondering why Bert double tongued that particular etude. Maybe it was "because he could."

I doubt that any kid in the contest will attempt it that way. In my opinion, it's easier (and cleaner) to do it single tongued.

Jeff Smiley
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jophst · Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 3:30 pm Post subject:

I didn't mean to start a big debate on how to be civil. I just felt that based on the subject matter of the forum, it may have been uncalled for and a little out of line. He should have started another thread if he wants to critique someone else's playing .... and be prepared to back up his own also.

There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but there is with destructive.

Personally I still believe that he was not personally trying to win an audition with anyone. I think he could have if he really wanted to though.
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